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IR80 wrote:
Indeed, there isn't even anecdotal evidence that having had C-19 once provides immunity, let alone proven impirical medical evidence. There are 14 (current) variants, it is an RNA type virous so mutation is slow but continuous. If natural immunity to any RNA was so straightforward we wouldn't have seasonal flu jabs for influenza, some people (especially who take posts on Facebook as fact, without reading the wider science) don't seem to understand that C-19 hasn't been an actual cause of death in the vast majority of cases, the usual cause is Pneumonia and/or other underlying conditions, similar to Flu, C-19 can cause lung problems and sepsis, but they are uncommon that is why the reports say "with COVID-19" not "of COVID-19."
The world will never (my view) get back to what we used to call "normal", even if COVID-19 miraculously disappeared overnight people would still have the modified behaviour we see every day, how much convincing would you need to do to get a lot of thpse deemed "at risk" previously to suddenly start going on aeroplanes etc. These individuals are risk averse most of the time, doubley so now.
Agree with this, modifying behaviour through fear is something that has been done throughout history and to great effect.
Very few are able to understand the subtle difference in terminology used regarding deaths, the Office for National Statistics produces weekly figures for deaths by underlying cause, this is the only way they can 'code' a death, but they've added another section to include deaths where there is just a mention of a virus or even just a suspicion of a virus present and neither of those scenarios were underlying cause.
A step further, ONS have openly admitted to manipulating the numbers by including all pneumonia and influenza deaths and calling them all Covid19, something they've never done with any virus ever, still the number of actual deaths from respiratory diseases including C.19, flu, pneumonia etc in England and Wales, are fewer since first C.19 death was mentioned than for the 6 week period from week one (Jjanuary), and also less at the C.19 peak than for any of the last 5 years weeks 1-6 respiratory deaths by underlying cause.
If you make people think if they do x or y they are at serious risk of harm then people will stop doing that, showing them actual raw data proving that that risk is no more than it was in previous years goes unheeded, because they are so influenced by media and government who in turn modify behaviour of everyone else like supermarkets, sporting organisations, workplaces local authorities NHS etc telling you don't do x or do y because of [insert reason/s]
if we concentrate on RL, that modified behaviour damages the sport, even if people are told it's ok, it's still in some people's heads because it's been rammed down people's throats almost every minute of every waking day for the last few months. The way those who run the sport will have a huge input into how people are able to congregate/admission rules to sporting venues. They in turn are influenced heavily by what's been said day in day out.
Just want to get back in the throng of a big crowd and watch some top level rugby.
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