The Sin Bin • Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
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Everything you say is conjecture. No-one knows what will happen. The cataclysmic scare stories we heard have not come to pass. I have little doubt there will be a not insignificant hit, but in my view it's worth it and ultimately we will recover. When I look ahead 10...20...50 years I don't like where the EU is going and the effects it would have on the UK.
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Aside form your fears of being "ruled" from Brussels the above paragraph is the nub of the whole issue.
You quite rightly state that any views of an economic hit are conjecture, however, what we do have, when taken over the longer term is proof that being within The EU has had huge benefits for it's members, even those who are net contributors (like The UK) and you are happy to play "risk" with the livelihoods of not just yourself and your fellow leavers but also with the livelihoods of those who either didnt vote or voted remain.
AND we still have the very large elephant in the room which is N.Ireland, a situation which appears to have reached an impasse.
Either create a new customs union, which so many Tories (and others) will never agree to or, have full border control's, which neither "half" of Ireland want (mind you, both halves also want to remain within the EU so, something will definitely have to give.
I said many months ago that "no deal" was looking more likely and I still stand by this.
It will leave both sides in a position where they can blame the other side but, still wont solve the Irish situation.
Oh; and Labour still hedging it's bet's so that they cant be wrong
Interesting times
Everything you say is conjecture. No-one knows what will happen. The cataclysmic scare stories we heard have not come to pass. I have little doubt there will be a not insignificant hit, but in my view it's worth it and ultimately we will recover. When I look ahead 10...20...50 years I don't like where the EU is going and the effects it would have on the UK.
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Aside form your fears of being "ruled" from Brussels the above paragraph is the nub of the whole issue.
You quite rightly state that any views of an economic hit are conjecture, however, what we do have, when taken over the longer term is proof that being within The EU has had huge benefits for it's members, even those who are net contributors (like The UK) and you are happy to play "risk" with the livelihoods of not just yourself and your fellow leavers but also with the livelihoods of those who either didnt vote or voted remain.
AND we still have the very large elephant in the room which is N.Ireland, a situation which appears to have reached an impasse.
Either create a new customs union, which so many Tories (and others) will never agree to or, have full border control's, which neither "half" of Ireland want (mind you, both halves also want to remain within the EU so, something will definitely have to give.
I said many months ago that "no deal" was looking more likely and I still stand by this.
It will leave both sides in a position where they can blame the other side but, still wont solve the Irish situation.
Oh; and Labour still hedging it's bet's so that they cant be wrong
Interesting times
Statistics: Posted by wrencat1873 — Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:46 am