The Sin Bin • Re: Who did Amber in?
majorhound wrote:
I don't think it's the policies as much as the organisational culture. The emphasis on making life difficult for those seen as having no right to be here. Effectively, if you had a brown skin and couldn't show documentary proof then you were fair game.
Well, yes, life here should be difficult for those here illegally. Makes a bit more sense than making life easy for them.
Windrush is an administrative issue, nothing more, and certainly nothing to do with race. A unique set of events conspiring to land some of those migrants in difficulties. Even most Labour MPs have avoided flashing the race card - but it didn't stop you, did it.
There was a woman on the news last night who'd just returned after been stuck in Jamaica for 7 years despite having a son and a daughter both born here. She didn't have the proof. She had the son and daughter but apparently they didn't count.
My wife's gone to the West Indies.
Jamaica?
No Amber Rudd did.
I assume you're referring to Gretel Gocan? More holes in that story than a Catalans defence.
She arrived on a Jamaican passport in the 60s, which was stamped 'indefinite leave to remain'. This passport was (allegedly) stolen in 2006. She then apparently got a new passport (British or Jamaican, we aren't told) and travelled to Jamaica in 2010, but this passport was also stolen (according to some sources but not others). She was then denied re-entry to the UK after her application for a replacement passport was denied (not normally a problem when passports are stolen or lost overseas). As she has been unable to provide any evidence of her residency in the UK, she was stuck.
Firstly: should we let everyone without a passport and/or correct paperwork and/or evidence simply stroll into the country? Of course not. As you said, she didn't have proof. Channel 4 News and the BBC rolling out legions of wizened Windrush migrants to regale their tales of woe isn't good enough reason to relax immigration rules I'm afraid, no matter how hard they try - although of course in light of events individual Windrush cases are being reviewed sympathetically - exactly as happened to Ms Gocan.
Secondly: she was first denied re-entry in 2010. 3 years before the 'hostile environment' speech and 6 years before Rudd became Home Secretary. Attributing her situation to Theresa May or indeed Amber Rudd is ridiculous politicking at best. Attributing it to not having the correct paperwork and no evidence of your claims is more accurate.
Statistics: Posted by Cronus — Sun May 06, 2018 10:34 pm