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Juan Cornetto wrote:

The reason Farrell is one of the top earners in world rugby and why he is rated so highly is precisely because of his outstanding performance and consistency over his whole career since he made the Saracens first team at the age of 16. That you failed to spot this when he was 19 was excusable as not everyone has this ability but to deny his world class skills and performances since is to fly in the face of world rugby opinion from rugby people who know a thing or two like All Blacks coach Steve Hansen, England world Cup winning coach Sir Clive Woodward, Lions coaches Warren Gatland and Sir Ian McGeechan.

I have quoted two different world rugby player ratings sites as a back up to my opinion that Farrell is a world class 10 which as I say is shared by most respected coaches and players.

I have used statistics to back up my opinions not to form them. While you have a record of poor judgement of both coaches and players. Your dislike of statistics is because they rarely back up your opinion and had you ever coached you would realise they provide useful support information.

The England team have put in two very poor performances but Farrell while not at his own best was still one of our best players in both and at centre had little chance to shine as the forwards were being dominated and produced only very slow ball. When Ford was taken off and Farrell went to fly half in the final quarter was when England had their best chance to win the game and his pass created our try.

With regard to Walters I still await your back up evidence to quantify all these many occasions that you say he was bumped off when first into a tackle and show how many times he left all these gaps? The stat you do not like shows he made 38 tackles from the bench!

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So England flop but your "World Class 10 or 12" isn't culpable in any way?
Also you list these Coaches as rating him as World Class yet Eddie Jones doesn't see him as a 1st choice 10?
My "dislike" of stats is purely because they NEVER show the whole picture of a performance.
A perfect example would be how many of these 38 tackles Walters made were 2nd or 3rd man?
Where do the stats show gaps created in the defensive line or poor initial contact?
Also my "poor judgement" as you put it has always been an opinion formed at that moment in time.
Just like yours when you were slating Sutcliffe for running on the 5th tackle at the start of last season when playing at 6.
Yet when Mcguire returned to the team & said in a post match interview it was a "tactic" they were trying out as per Coaching instruction to try to avoid a 7 tackle set you were happy to back it :READING:
You really have an "holier than thou" approach to these discussions at times JC as though you're some superior Coaching guru but happily throw yer opinions out there for games you dont see live or attend using stats or highlights.
With regards to backing my opinion about Walters' performance i will watch the full game back when i get chance. :thumb:

Statistics: Posted by RHINO-MARK — Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:11 pm — Replies 1 — Views 18


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