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Wigan Warriors • Re: Covid

Jukesays wrote:

So basically if anyone else says anything that doesn't suit your arguement it's heresay, not really relevant, or twisted facts and figures.?

There was no need for any more context than what was given
You are vastly times more like to be seriously ill, or die, from covid without the vaccines cine than with it.
And as a slight aside no one ever said that vaccines stopped anyone from getting it or passing it on, but it does reduce the likelihood of transmission and getting it.

If I was dying I would get medical attention from a doctor or nurse with Ebola, doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer one that hasn't

I think I've seen one person say they would hold them down etc. And give them the vaccine, if that poster is half as perplexed as I've been I can understand their frustration.

But in reality that was 1 post, 50 pages past the original point, which I still can't get my head round because.you and quite a few.others seemed to be arguing differently back then, that vaccines do or don't work. Iirc there was.lots of counter arguments saying they didn't etc, and certainly in different age groups.

However if the argument had now come down to this last point then I'm fine and we can put this to bed hopefully

We have most people saying that everyone has the choice to be vaccinated or not?

Whilst we have a disagreement if employers/premise owners have the right to choose to employ said vaccinated/non-vaccinated

If that's the case, then I think we can talk for another 100pages on that 1 point.

I myself, as do 99% of people I can see on here (so don't make out that because 1.person said something we are all for mandatory vaccinations for all) are all for choice.

But we have a split on whether businesses, health sectors rtc. have the right to choose whether to employ them? Or let them into their premises/events.

And if that is the case, then its a thousand miles from were the disagreement was 30 pages ago. Funny how goalposts move


No, that’s not what I said at all, my point about facts/figures/statistics is that they can be represented whatever way you want to push a certain agenda. All that I have ever asked when people have posted them is to explain the context behind them and if people don’t know that and just post for the sake of it or because they found it in the MSM (I know you like that acronym ) then I can’t really comment on that information.

Take the “up to 90% of patients in ICU are unvaccinated” that’s a shocking statistic and headline to read but in the grand scheme of things it could be 9/10 patients in one hospital are unvaccinated and all other patients in all the other hospitals are. I am not saying that is the case but you get my point, that fact on its own tells us nothing.

I’m not really sure how I have argued differently before, I can’t recall I have ever said vaccines don’t work and my stance has always been I don’t think the vaccine is right for everyone. However, to be clear I have never once suggested to anyone to not get the vaccine as that would be hypocritical of me to do so.

Regarding employers mandating whether that’s NHS, corporate firms or Wigan Warriors I again don’t agree with that and is my opinion.

Statistics: Posted by WiganRL12345 — Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:08 pm


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